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Ven. 12/12/2008 à 20:25
12/12/2008 20:25, rédigé par Kendra
Mise à jour, samedi 13 décembre à 1h10 : http://www.gunsnroses.com a été mis à jour. Nous avons donc la confirmation officielle que "Dexter" était bien Axl.
Comme vous l'a précédemment dit Lucs, Axl a pris la peine de répondre sous le pseudo de "Dexter" aux fans de Guns N' Roses via les forums américains les plus fréquentés. L'identité d'Axl a été confirmée par Jarmo (l'administrateur du forum HereTodayGoneToHell.com) et par Fernando (fils de l'assistante et amie très proche d'Axl, toujours sur HTGTH).
Voici donc, à l'état brut (nous voulions vous faire partager rapidement ce moment, mais sachez que les traductions sont en cours), les échanges d'Axl avec les fans :
fan:
Imagine you post on the Britney Spears fan forum.
Now imagine the son of Britney's maid posting on the forum and everyone gushing over him because of his association to Britney. Nevermind that he never posts anything notable and is generally annoying.
That's Fernando.
axl:
Might as well start here... You're a little cunt and since you've been posting you've pretty much always been a little cunt. Blind accusations and insults by an anonymous coward and whiny shit stirrer aren't impressive or needed by anyone. Everyone else...talk with your administrator. Who wants to chat?!!
fan:
Pot meet kettle.
axl:
Not real bright are ya?
fan:
No, not really.
Then again I'm not the one who needs a house keeper to wipe my ass.
axl:
Ah... another cunt! So shocking!
axl:
Aw c'mon, nobody wants to play? U go on forever about where am I and I'm right here.
fan:
Yeah, I'm a miserable cunt who's not a fan of the band and Axl doesn't need fans like me.
Reality check here.
The only one's who's a apparently a miserable cunt is somebody who alienates and hides himself from the world and blames fans who pays his bills so he eat his duck roast dinner's.
Axl instead of coming here and calling me a cunt get off your ass and stick your head out of the fucking window. "All I've got in the press is shit after shit" which is exactly what we have gotten. Instead of being so butt sore over what some dude on the Internet says do what you do best put on a helluva of a show and make good music.
axl:
I don't work for you. Just cuz u think so don't make it true.
axl:
Blame the fans?
fan:
I never said you worked for me..
Is it that hard to talk to your fan base? Fuck you're apparently doing it now.
I don't know what Beta and Del have told you but us the fans have put up with your shit were the reason CD sold as much as it did along with every Gn"R record.
After all the years of telling people to suck your dick you'd think you'd grow a fucking pair to actually speak or say something after the release other than hiding in the batcave under your desk while WASP plays with strippers going up and down.
Blame the fans or anybody else seems to be the GN'R moto.
axl:
Why would anyone have to tell me anything? What would you know of anything actually going on in my world. Nice fantasy though, wish I had the time.
fan:
Tell that to Uncle Axl for me.
Does Beta cut his chicken dinner for him or does he actually cut it himself?
I'm not acting tough against a computer screen I'm trying to figure out why the thing's in the GN'R camp is such a mindfuck and get Axl out of this little world of comfort he's apparently built for himself.
axl:
Your misconceptions and fantasies along with your misguided sense of entitlement don't dictate my actions.
admin:
Just so there is no confusion, Dexter is Axl Rose.
fan:
a fight between a forum user and axl rose oh how classic is this
axl:
Nah. Friendly banter by those with opposing views.
fan:
If this is true. I have one question for you Axl. What is stopping the fans from seeing you Slash, Duff, and Izzy back on stage together?
axl:
U've been lied to and misled for such a long time that sorting through all that here is virtually impossible. A lot will come out over time but the truth has been out there for a long time as well but that doesn't give you what you want so this dance just goes on and on.
fan:
thanks for playing Rocket Queen in Melbourne
The red bike was awesome
axl:
I think it's in the Better vid. Not sure if we cut it.
fan:
just a quick question Axl,
how come you always come on stage so late at gigs?
ps I LOVE YOU MAN !!!!!!!
axl:
I've been an after midnight type since I was sneakin' out of my house in Jr. High. With old Guns we preferred 12am or so. When we moved to theaters etc obviously that changes but it's never changed inside me. Doesn't matter what I do so generally that's when I'm more myself. This isn't to mess with anyone that has an early schedule to keep it's just personal preference.
And in regard to the size venues I'm on record as preferring what ever venues allow for our schedule but management and promoters can do a lot in their own interests behind the scenes that can rarely be avoided and their greed or whatever leads to a lot of double talk and ugly behind nonsense that generally eventually ruins things for everyone. Translated once a tour is scheduled however it's like parting the seas to change.
As far as being late, I've been that way my whole life. It drove Izzy crazy but he would check himself and freely admit I was generally actually doing something that had to get done rather than watching basketball etc.
fan:
Hey Dexter,
Just wanted to say I really appreciate the song ?Scraped??Awesome work?.Also, while I was interning for President-Elect Obama, we all found ?Madagascar? to be very inspirational on certain days?.Also, seen you in Iowa in ?06 and you certainly didn?t look tardy?and in Ill in 02?I think you and the guys gave top performances?
I can?t believe you entered this particular jungle tonight?haha
axl:
Obama! That's a big gig! I need some presidential press advisors and speech writers!!
I'd like to thank everyone for their positive comments. They're very appreciated.
fan:
Axl do you really have 2 or 3 other albums of material?
axl:
For now we'll concentrate and keep our focus on this album but I will say I've always thought of it as a double.
And no offence but no one's trying to talk in parables. The issues are a bit more complex than anyone would like.
fan:
Axl I would like to know why you avoid the press so much. I think it's definitely hurting album sales, I mean, you haven't even done one interview. I know for sure you'd be able to get a few magazine covers. So why don't you? Why be such a hermit/recluse?
axl:
That's ur opinion and it very well could be true.
What I have to say a lot of people have no desire to hear.
With our team we were able to negotiate thru a mountain of issues to be able to release the album. Within' those negotiations I believed I had secured agreements, commitments and assurances that would have allowed a promotional strategy to be implemented that obviously I've had a fair amount of time to consider. Unfortunately those things never happened and once the record was closer to release the biz went about things in their standard business as usual mode.
fan:
axl, why did you change "the bues" to "street of dreams"??
axl:
The Blues was my first working title and I was never comfortable with it in the sense that I felt that should be used with a bluesier based song. And here in Hollywood with the walk of fame etc I had always seen that imagery in my head when I think of it. I also like the idea of the song having in affect two titles.
fan:
Axl, have you been in contact with steven adler at all? Not as far as playing with him or anything, just to like lend him support?
axl:
do wish Steven the best and in my heart hope that he finds some peace and security. As far as direct contact no. It unfortunately gets too messy too quick. In Steven's mind I'm the one who holds the keys and power over his happiness so I'm the bad guy pretty quickly.
fan:
A video for "Better" was mentioned. Any ideas for a date of release, and/or in what capacities it will be released? What style of video is planned - live footage, some more dramatic theme? Great song. Can't wait to see what you guys have created for a visual.
axl:
Soon is the word as in a week or so.
fan:
Axl, cherry or original flavor Nyquil?
axl:
prefer cherry night time for breakfast around 11pm
fan:
Hey Axl,
Is Mickey [Rourke] going to pay you back for letting them use SCOM in the Wrestler by starring in a new Guns video?
axl:
Actually Mickey agreed to play The Shackler if we were to make a vid for it.
Comme vous l'a précédemment dit Lucs, Axl a pris la peine de répondre sous le pseudo de "Dexter" aux fans de Guns N' Roses via les forums américains les plus fréquentés. L'identité d'Axl a été confirmée par Jarmo (l'administrateur du forum HereTodayGoneToHell.com) et par Fernando (fils de l'assistante et amie très proche d'Axl, toujours sur HTGTH).
Voici donc, à l'état brut (nous voulions vous faire partager rapidement ce moment, mais sachez que les traductions sont en cours), les échanges d'Axl avec les fans :
fan:
Imagine you post on the Britney Spears fan forum.
Now imagine the son of Britney's maid posting on the forum and everyone gushing over him because of his association to Britney. Nevermind that he never posts anything notable and is generally annoying.
That's Fernando.
axl:
Might as well start here... You're a little cunt and since you've been posting you've pretty much always been a little cunt. Blind accusations and insults by an anonymous coward and whiny shit stirrer aren't impressive or needed by anyone. Everyone else...talk with your administrator. Who wants to chat?!!
fan:
Pot meet kettle.
axl:
Not real bright are ya?
fan:
No, not really.
Then again I'm not the one who needs a house keeper to wipe my ass.
axl:
Ah... another cunt! So shocking!
axl:
Aw c'mon, nobody wants to play? U go on forever about where am I and I'm right here.
fan:
Yeah, I'm a miserable cunt who's not a fan of the band and Axl doesn't need fans like me.
Reality check here.
The only one's who's a apparently a miserable cunt is somebody who alienates and hides himself from the world and blames fans who pays his bills so he eat his duck roast dinner's.
Axl instead of coming here and calling me a cunt get off your ass and stick your head out of the fucking window. "All I've got in the press is shit after shit" which is exactly what we have gotten. Instead of being so butt sore over what some dude on the Internet says do what you do best put on a helluva of a show and make good music.
axl:
I don't work for you. Just cuz u think so don't make it true.
axl:
Blame the fans?
fan:
I never said you worked for me..
Is it that hard to talk to your fan base? Fuck you're apparently doing it now.
I don't know what Beta and Del have told you but us the fans have put up with your shit were the reason CD sold as much as it did along with every Gn"R record.
After all the years of telling people to suck your dick you'd think you'd grow a fucking pair to actually speak or say something after the release other than hiding in the batcave under your desk while WASP plays with strippers going up and down.
Blame the fans or anybody else seems to be the GN'R moto.
axl:
Why would anyone have to tell me anything? What would you know of anything actually going on in my world. Nice fantasy though, wish I had the time.
fan:
Tell that to Uncle Axl for me.
Does Beta cut his chicken dinner for him or does he actually cut it himself?
I'm not acting tough against a computer screen I'm trying to figure out why the thing's in the GN'R camp is such a mindfuck and get Axl out of this little world of comfort he's apparently built for himself.
axl:
Your misconceptions and fantasies along with your misguided sense of entitlement don't dictate my actions.
admin:
Just so there is no confusion, Dexter is Axl Rose.
fan:
a fight between a forum user and axl rose oh how classic is this
axl:
Nah. Friendly banter by those with opposing views.
fan:
If this is true. I have one question for you Axl. What is stopping the fans from seeing you Slash, Duff, and Izzy back on stage together?
axl:
U've been lied to and misled for such a long time that sorting through all that here is virtually impossible. A lot will come out over time but the truth has been out there for a long time as well but that doesn't give you what you want so this dance just goes on and on.
fan:
thanks for playing Rocket Queen in Melbourne
The red bike was awesome
axl:
I think it's in the Better vid. Not sure if we cut it.
fan:
just a quick question Axl,
how come you always come on stage so late at gigs?
ps I LOVE YOU MAN !!!!!!!
axl:
I've been an after midnight type since I was sneakin' out of my house in Jr. High. With old Guns we preferred 12am or so. When we moved to theaters etc obviously that changes but it's never changed inside me. Doesn't matter what I do so generally that's when I'm more myself. This isn't to mess with anyone that has an early schedule to keep it's just personal preference.
And in regard to the size venues I'm on record as preferring what ever venues allow for our schedule but management and promoters can do a lot in their own interests behind the scenes that can rarely be avoided and their greed or whatever leads to a lot of double talk and ugly behind nonsense that generally eventually ruins things for everyone. Translated once a tour is scheduled however it's like parting the seas to change.
As far as being late, I've been that way my whole life. It drove Izzy crazy but he would check himself and freely admit I was generally actually doing something that had to get done rather than watching basketball etc.
fan:
Hey Dexter,
Just wanted to say I really appreciate the song ?Scraped??Awesome work?.Also, while I was interning for President-Elect Obama, we all found ?Madagascar? to be very inspirational on certain days?.Also, seen you in Iowa in ?06 and you certainly didn?t look tardy?and in Ill in 02?I think you and the guys gave top performances?
I can?t believe you entered this particular jungle tonight?haha
axl:
Obama! That's a big gig! I need some presidential press advisors and speech writers!!
I'd like to thank everyone for their positive comments. They're very appreciated.
fan:
Axl do you really have 2 or 3 other albums of material?
axl:
For now we'll concentrate and keep our focus on this album but I will say I've always thought of it as a double.
And no offence but no one's trying to talk in parables. The issues are a bit more complex than anyone would like.
fan:
Axl I would like to know why you avoid the press so much. I think it's definitely hurting album sales, I mean, you haven't even done one interview. I know for sure you'd be able to get a few magazine covers. So why don't you? Why be such a hermit/recluse?
axl:
That's ur opinion and it very well could be true.
What I have to say a lot of people have no desire to hear.
With our team we were able to negotiate thru a mountain of issues to be able to release the album. Within' those negotiations I believed I had secured agreements, commitments and assurances that would have allowed a promotional strategy to be implemented that obviously I've had a fair amount of time to consider. Unfortunately those things never happened and once the record was closer to release the biz went about things in their standard business as usual mode.
fan:
axl, why did you change "the bues" to "street of dreams"??
axl:
The Blues was my first working title and I was never comfortable with it in the sense that I felt that should be used with a bluesier based song. And here in Hollywood with the walk of fame etc I had always seen that imagery in my head when I think of it. I also like the idea of the song having in affect two titles.
fan:
Axl, have you been in contact with steven adler at all? Not as far as playing with him or anything, just to like lend him support?
axl:
do wish Steven the best and in my heart hope that he finds some peace and security. As far as direct contact no. It unfortunately gets too messy too quick. In Steven's mind I'm the one who holds the keys and power over his happiness so I'm the bad guy pretty quickly.
fan:
A video for "Better" was mentioned. Any ideas for a date of release, and/or in what capacities it will be released? What style of video is planned - live footage, some more dramatic theme? Great song. Can't wait to see what you guys have created for a visual.
axl:
Soon is the word as in a week or so.
fan:
Axl, cherry or original flavor Nyquil?
axl:
prefer cherry night time for breakfast around 11pm
fan:
Hey Axl,
Is Mickey [Rourke] going to pay you back for letting them use SCOM in the Wrestler by starring in a new Guns video?
axl:
Actually Mickey agreed to play The Shackler if we were to make a vid for it.
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